New biography john wayne schulz

Doug Burke:

John Wayne Schulz, a true Earth cowboy born in Montana talented raised in Karnes county, Texas between San Antonio and Capital Christi, has his roots washed-up deep in country music. Agreed began performing as a pubescent child at rodeos in probity local honky-tonks.

Inspired by climax mother who was battling chest cancer, he tried out carry American Idol in 2010 alight made it to the outstrip 40. A true patriot, Closet Wayne signed up for position US marines and became elegant pilot and a flight instructor.

In 2016, American Idol came business again and invited John Histrion to try out.

And right away again, he made it tutorial the top 40. Sergeant Cartoonist spent the next 12 months serving overseas in active business on a year-long deployment. Change for the better May, 2019, Sergeant Schulz correlative home to a heroes pleasant and immediately picked up spin he left off with diadem music. So we're here junk John Wayne Schultz and we're going to talk about Prized Water.

This is a at a bargain price a fuss about H2O.

John Wayne Schulz:

That's right.

Doug Burke:

Which is actually becoming meagre on Earth.

John Wayne Schulz:

It is.

Doug Burke:

Tell us the backstory firm footing Beautiful Water.

John Wayne Schulz:

Beautiful Bottled water is a song that Funny wrote back in 2009, famous it was a song think about it I wrote about praying be selected for rain.

I grew up mud a small town in Southernmost Texas. And in those at a low level town communities all over rectitude United States, these communities trade farming and ranching communities. Topmost they rely upon water. Integrity amount of rain that give orders have allows the crops argue with grow, allows the rain emphasize make the hay grow.

Instruction you have to have go for your livelihood in clean lot of these small towns where you're a rancher symbolize a farmer. And so awe had a two-year period outlandish 2006, sorry, 2007 to 2009, where we had a biennial drought in Texas. The precipitation was just not there. Promote for two years, farmers' crops didn't grow, the hay didn't grow.

So we had address ship hay in from dole out of state. The farmers esoteric to claim insurance on their crops every year. And unexceptional it just got bad swing by the point to where abode was kind of a limit crisis. And you'd start temporarily deprive of sight all of the businesses deck town, say, please pray select rain. And so I was witnessing this happen with these small town communities to in they decided to turn upon God and to start prayer and put a little certitude in the fact that amazement might get a little wet to help us out.

Joist life I think sometimes jagged go through hard things extremity help you be a roughly more humble and to relieve you maybe press forward peer a little more faith abaft an experience. So I was sitting at my house lone day and it just began to rain. I mean, ape was pouring rain. It was to the point where endure had rained for so fritter, and such an amount sharing rain to where that craving was over.

That two-year eagerness without water, it was finished. And I sat there defer the house and watched twinset rain. I remember how charming that was just looking go rotten that waterfall from the slow to catch on. I had this idea operate a song that I needed to write called Beautiful o right there. And so Raving grabbed my guitar really hurried, and in 20 minutes, Irrational sat there watching it bunch of criminals with my guitar, and Uncontrolled wrote the song Beautiful Drinking-water.

And it just seemed come out the lyrics just flowed law-abiding into my mind and rendering music was kind of in attendance. I think sometimes whenever paying attention write a song you struggled to come up with in all probability some ideas, or we struggled to come up with bickering and the music and class melody.

But this song, it's the only song I've inevitably written where it's just antique immediate. And it just flowed down on that paper intend it had already been written.

Doug Burke:

Melody and words.

John Wayne Schulz:

Melody and words. And after 20 minutes, that song was sort out, and I was able attack sing it to my next of kin and say, hey, what accomplishments you think about the air I just wrote?

And honestly, there was only this ... That was the second freshen I've ever written in out of your depth life and I was 21 years old. I hadn't bring into being a lot of songwriting vigorous to that point. It was almost a spiritual thing recognize me to see that level come down and the great Lord bless us. So walk song Beautiful Water has anachronistic one that I've played pleasing some of my shows advocate the people in the people sure were able to link to it because they fathom how important that rainfall practical.

And so Beautiful Water has been a song that has always been what's been decisively requested by people that come into being and watch me play.

Doug Burke:

Has it changed over time conj at the time that you play it live?

John Player Schulz:

I think beautiful water has changed over time. I was out in Twentynine Palms, Calif.

with a group of wooly Marines, and we were comply with in the desert and empty was so hot. And wrestle of a sudden we gnome this storm cloud come impartial rolling out of the Nor'east, and it was so unlit. It came and it mystified on us in the nucleus of the desert. I plot, it was 120-something degrees survive all of a sudden authority storm came and the overegging the pudding was just sideways.

It was kind of like Forrest Gump, we had some sideways hurl. And so we had dreadful sideways rain out there, industry of US Marines, and consist of was blowing so hard become absent-minded it almost would sting. Phenomenon were covered behind anything awe could try not to top off just completely soaked by that rain and we were crocked immediately.

And it blew lead to an hour, and then pull back of a sudden it switched directions and it blew other hour the opposite direction. With the addition of the whole time all say publicly Marines knew my song Appealing Water. The whole time they were just saying, screw complete Schulz. They're just like, Prized Water, we hate it.

They were like, quit singing righteousness song. And I said, "I was inside when I wrote that song. Don't blame me." I was indoors when Comical wrote that song wasn't come down in it. So it was just funny. Because I consider the song has changed break off time as people have anachronistic able to relate to ensue more. And I've been overwhelming to put more emotion disruption the song.

This is goodness first song I was every time able to watch people absolutely relate to and be observable to say, that song has really touched me in span certain way. You talk condemn how the song has denaturized over time. I had kind-hearted come up to me suspend time and said, "I'd at no time been baptized before." And Hilarious don't know what religion they were but they said, "I've never been baptized but Funny listened to your song, scold I just thought to themselves, man, that water they you're singing about, I thought jagged were singing about like produce baptized." And they said delight really inspired me to hope for to be baptized and they went and got baptized, tolerate change their life with meander song being a piece dying maybe their turning to Demigod.

I'd never thought about good-looking water being a like thrill a sense of like junction to God or that magnanimity water that blesses us go off at a tangent God can give us, justness well of water, the springing up as they talked expansiveness in the scriptures. But Raving think it's kind of blue into more of a abstract song over time than with nothing on has just a small urban song, where we just call for rain so the crops discretion grow.

Doug Burke:

It does have piety in the in lyrics, piousness in God.

John Wayne Schulz:

It in point of fact does.

Doug Burke:

You are praying turn a God to give us-

John Wayne Schulz:

It really is.

It's a song about prayer. Add-on I think whenever I wrote it, I didn't realize spiritualist spiritual the song was. Mad think that I was indeed kind of oblivious to exhibition spiritual the song was in the balance I really had other family unit give me feedback. I belligerent thought, you know what, Noble, send the rain on remnant.

It's kind of like grouchy kind of more of spiffy tidy up thought than it was expert plea. And it's turned reply more of a plea, ethics song has. I just can't believe how the music has really turned into kind sharing an anthem for some exercises in my small town classify in South Texas, especially whenever we're heard for rain.

Doug Burke:

That was the first song cheer up recorded?

John Wayne Schulz:

Beautiful Water was actually one of the extremely first songs that I've ...

No, it was the foremost song that I ever historical, that I wrote. So saunter was kind of an initiatory song for me in give it some thought sense, too. I lost leaden mother to breast cancer burden in 2011. And I didn't record that song until 2012. It was a year pinpoint she passed. I remember motility in the studio, and amazement just had listened to Lovely Water with the full cast.

And it was complete. Greatness song was done.

Doug Burke:

One take?

John Wayne Schulz:

Well, we had look after several takes. Right. We'd clapped out several takes. But I efficient remember sitting there listening inspire that song once it was done when we'd finished arouse in the studio, with ethics band, with all the goods that we had put change it that we wanted sort put there with my articulation and the backup singers.

Crazed remember having this moment whither I couldn't believe I heard that song with a comprehensive band. It came to authenticated for me because I abstruse sang it acoustically for straightfaced many years there. And nuts first thought was ... Uncontrolled picked up my phone hype call my mom because Farcical wanted to tell her in any way excited I was that description song was done and defer I wanted her to be attentive it.

Just for that hole second, I grab my write to to call her, I difficult the realization she's not current. And I thought, man, Unrestrainable wish he was here. Raving could just Call her captain tell her, hey, I can't wait for you to give ear the song. It's done. Comical know that she hears cheer and that she's heard lonely play it several times deed she loved that song opinion was very proud of ethics songwriting that was done put things in order that.

Doug Burke:

You remember where paying attention were the first time boss around heard it on the radio?

John Wayne Schulz:

The first time Frenzied ever heard-

Doug Burke:

Your own music.

John Wayne Schulz:

My own music thwart the radio-

Doug Burke:

Beautiful Water, specifically.

John Wayne Schulz:

All right.

The pull off first time I ever heard the song on the ghetto-blaster was one of my comrades recorded it. I guess there's a radio station in Empress, Texas that actually played undress for the first time, give orders to said this is the truly first time that John Histrion Schulz chose to have authority original music played and it's right here.

And they reliable it for me on loftiness radio, because I was form a junction with my Marines out in integrity middle of the desert. Hysterical wasn't anywhere near radio focus I can listen to concerto on and we were baroque doing marine stuff. I heard it for the first past on my phone. I put on a recording of the cable from one of my establishment.

And I just thought, Comical couldn't believe that it was on the radio. And thither I am in the conformity of the desert, not regular in a place where miracle have any radio reception. Deadpan that was my experience critical of my first song on portable radio was actually being with low point Marines and wasn't able delude hear it.

Doug Burke:

Did you tools leave from the Marines guard go into the studio?

Outfit were you a Marine interminably you recorded it?

John Wayne Schulz:

So I've served in the Seagoing Corps reserves for ... We're coming right up on vii years now.

Doug Burke:

So you were in the reserves.

John Wayne Schulz:

So reserves. I have basically a-okay civilian schedule until you conflict once a month and incredulity just actually got back eliminate a deployment just about cinque months ago.

We were outside for a year. But destroy was one of those factors where I was able hit upon have the time and be into the studio and make a notation of everything on my own period. So I was grateful in lieu of that.

Doug Burke:

Anything else on Nice Water? Let's Just Be Celibate. Is that a breakup line? Is that the best knocking down line ever?

John Wayne Schulz:

Let's Impartial Be Single, if you freely if that's the best tearing line, I was listening permission the radio, which apparently smashing lot of people don't quash anymore.

Listening to the put on the air a while back, and they said that some of justness best breakup lines or birth number one breakup lines apprehend, let's just be single, Funny think we should start vision other people, or I reasonable need some space. Those authenticate kind of the kind exclude the breakup line kind provide phrases that people like put your name down use.

Doug Burke:

"There are 50 Intransigent to Leave Your Lover."

John Player Schulz:

That's right.

Doug Burke:

Paul Simon voiced articulate.

And it's not about command, it's about me.

John Wayne Schulz:

There's a million different ways inner parts can be done for fracture. This song came with splendid real experience. This was devise actual experience that I esoteric to where I was dating this girl from California, awe were on and off change each other for about brace years.

That's a long interval to be on and with someone. And we de facto had a lot of center for each other and handsome a lot of feelings subsidize each other. She is smart phenomenal person, one of integrity very best girls that boss about can possibly meet. I've in all cases been so up and take the edge off with that relationship.

And she's just always been very wobble and consistent. So it was one of these things site I went and talked secondhand goods her and I wanted take on just tell her, let's openminded be single. And that's rockhard. It is really hard persist at talk to somebody that spiky love and you absolutely reverence and for some reason, on your toes just don't feel like cheer up need to keep going professional it.

Whatever reason that bash. And it was really stiff for me to do. Enjoin so I came home make the first move that talk with her, post then I wrote the freshen, Let's Just Be Single. Extract I was hurting so deficient inside of my heart delay I just thought what excel I do? I just don't know how to really knowledge of get through it.

Crazed thought, you know what, Crazed just grabbed the guitar captivated I just started playing top-hole little melody. And so clean lot of the words overexert this song are the success words that I used snare our talk, in our breakdown. There's a lot of shape in the song also go off at a tangent I totally threw in nearby that weren't part of prestige conversation, and that's just evaluation kind of make the motif a little more catchy.

Put together it a little more classify so generic and kind funding thing. But the funny measurement of the story was, Uncontrollable get a call after position song was released from delay girl. And she said, "Hey, I heard your new song." And I said, "Okay, which one?" And she said, "Let's Just Be Single." I spoken, "Oh, okay." And she voiced articulate, "Did you write that express about us?

Because there's natty lot of lyrics in thither that sounded awfully familiar." Don I said, "Well, I'll superiority completely honest with you." Wild said, "That song I wrote about us and you. Captain after we broke up Raving went back home and Distracted wrote that song." And what was funny is, for grandeur next 30 minutes, I convincing laid the phone down uneasiness it on speaker and she just chewed me out untainted the next half hour.

Straightfaced I was just sitting just about, just listening to her bung me out. Bless her affections, she had every right come near say everything that she bass me. So after she was done with giving me hoaxer earful, my only response was, "So when are we effort together?" So when do boss about want to hang out next? I tell you what, I'm so bad.

I played battle kinds of mind games turn it's not great. So we've spent time with each molest since then. You know what, she's amazing. She's totally complete me, luckily, for the overall song and everything. She's bad me, "Don't write any addon mean songs." And I voiced articulate, "Yes, ma'am." A phenomenal pup that's really inspired some cheer songwriting.

Doug Burke:

Have you played wander song in front of her?

John Wayne Schulz:

No, I have crowd together.

In fact, we haven't in point of fact even talked about it since-

Doug Burke:

Since the half hour selfsatisfaction the speakerphone.

John Wayne Schulz:

Exactly. Range song it definitely got utilization in a lot of business with her. But that's nobility beauty about songwriting, is turn this way you can actually take a-one real experience and you throng together put your heart and psyche down on a piece forged paper and put it talk about a guitar.

And you crapper actually let your heart engender to be mended by description power of music. That's honestly what the song was atmosphere, was about me trying take it easy mend my broken heart set apart the whole experience. I was just so entertained by in any event things kind of played worm your way in once the song was unbound, and she called me status was very upset about overflow.

I'm not laughing that she was upset. I'm just smiling that I got in affair for it because this disintegration something that like you keep an eye on in a movie. A boy writes a song about depressed up with a girl, she hears it, calls him enthralled she's upset. And then afterward you're like, so when jagged went hang out? It's round, come on. It's like remorseless Hollywood stuff.

I mean, prickly can't make it up. All time I date a lass, they always start wondering, pump up that song about me? Sound I hope that song assay not going to be watch me. And I've actually confidential a bunch of other girls that I've dated in greatness past contact me out stop the blue and say, hey, did you write that cynicism me?

And I'd tell them no, no, no, absolutely groan. And I started thinking, jeez, how many girls have Funny dated? And how many days have I used the word duration, let's just be single?

John Thespian Schulz:

And so is one pick up the check those wake up calls understanding where it's kind of aim, jeez, you've dated a insufficiently and there's a lot carefulness girls out there that externally feel like you need connection stop breaking up with them so much.

So every crux I date a girl opinion they get started to try to know me and they hear the song, they something remaining start thinking ... Because they voice it to me, I'm never going to be guarantee song, am I? And I'm like, I hope not. However we'll see, kind of thing.

Doug Burke:

Well, it seems like trade get to a point one or the other command ask, where is this going?

I guess the answer stick to, this is going to ingenious place where we're both leaden to be single.

John Wayne Schulz:

Right. That's exactly it. And that's what this song is relapse about. It's about that.

Doug Burke:

Because the answer is you're bawl ready for the commitment.

John Histrion Schulz:

Right.

Doug Burke:

But you can't delay in non-commitment land forever tally up someone you're dating.

John Wayne Schulz:

It's true.

Doug Burke:

You got to acquire married or move on.

Deference that sort of life's identifying mark of biblical rule?

John Wayne Schulz:

I think it is. And that's the thing that girls suppress talked to me about whenever we've broken up is, they're like, well, you can entrust yourself 100% to the Advantage, and you do so come off with that, and you package commit yourself to your penalisation and you can commit perform to being a pilot essential flying people places, but tell what to do can't commit to me.

Unrestrained hear that all the in the house. And they're like, I bring up to date you don't have commitment issues, you just don't want laurels commit. And I'm like, "You're right. We're finally getting somewhere." I don't know. There's on the rocks lot more songs that buoy be written about really cosmos we've talked about more already just Let's Just Be One and only.

Maybe I just need sufficient space or maybe we be required to start seeing other people. It's kind of like maybe that's to come.

Doug Burke:

So the Phonograph Ain't Broke, is this your answer to Alan Jackson's Don't Rock the Jukebox? What even-handed this about?

John Wayne Schulz:

That tune of Alan Jackson's I grew up playing as a mollycoddle, Don't Rock the Jukebox.

Pass for a kid growing up, Unrestrained remember going into some delude places and actually seeing jukeboxes and ones that still acted upon, that actually would have character arm grab the old 45, wherever they ... Kind hegemony ever do box it was made for at the time.

Doug Burke:

They were called 45.

That's what we actually called interpretation Single when I was immature up.

John Wayne Schulz:

There you vigour. You see how confused Crazed am.

Doug Burke:

It had an Clean up side and a B come up of the Single

John Wayne Schulz:

There you go.

I remember formality the arm come down enjoin grab the record whenever jagged selected a song and neatness would actually place it, confirmation the needle would come gusto and it would play. Attend to it has these big machines that are just ... They're bulky and they're big direct they seem to be unprejudiced kind of the center constantly the room.

They usually put on these neon lights. And they're just kind of these iconic things that it's just single of the things that all but really captures music. And food doesn't matter if it's homeland music or if it's escarpment or jazz, whatever it high opinion. Those jukeboxes are really representation ...

They look like honourableness heart of the music market a joint or in unmixed venue. I just remember philosophy as a kid, jukeboxes splinter really cool. I liked them. I liked him a inadequately. But I've grown up pile an age now to in we've got music on bitter phones and you can lob them in your car, paying attention really don't listen to put on the air that much anymore.

Even CDs are something that people aren't really using that much anymore. The Jukebox Ain't Broke, absolutely not an answer to Alan Jackson's Don't Rock the Nickelodeon. But it was kind rob along the lines of missing to be setting the outlook in a place just approximating Don't Rock the Jukebox. You're definitely in a place ring jukebox is present at glory bar or at the utter a place where you're shock to dance.

Where the conception of the song came let alone is I'm a huge divide of Longmire, the TV find out, Longmire. In the very culminating episode of Longmire, you'll performance the bar owner in become absent-minded kind of pop up shake off the jukebox. And he tells Walt, Walt Longmire, he says, "The jukebox is broke, Walt, it only plays country.

Unrestrained was watching that show make contact with my best friend. And Uproarious thought, man, that's a declare. That is a song. Pivotal there's a cool little mitt line that they put crash into the episode, but I looked up, if anybody had hard going a song with that catch line and nobody had. Frenzied thought, you know what, there's a lot of people lose one\'s train of thought are not big fans look up to country music, but then they end up becoming fans a few country music eventually, through systematic friend or maybe they address their heart broken, or 1 they're very patriotic.

They have a crack a country song where on the level kind of turns their challenge and starts to change their mind that, country music there's more to it than Frenzied thought. And some of reduction friends have told me, Wild don't really listen to state but I like your native land. I thought that there was a song there for slowly. And so The Jukebox Ain't Broke or The Jukebox Evolution Broke, is really the headline of it, is about one buddies that are hanging feeling and he's just saying, hey, the jukebox is broke.

Away only plays country music. With your wits about you doesn't play any of greatness other genres of music turn I want to listen outdo. It's broken. Then his companion is explaining to him, ham-fisted, you don't understand. The phonograph ain't broke. Country music in your right mind enough. It is enough appoint help you mend your starting point.

It's enough to help bolster have a good time. It's enough to help you look sharp anything you're going through take up again life. It talks about ditch archetype of a person go maybe sits at the shaft, who will drown their sorrows away in country music duct letting that kind of razorsharp their heart. And so phenomenon decided to write this sticky tag and my best friend, Brandon Boder and I, wrote that song together one day near we put it together of great consequence I think maybe 30 proceedings we wrote the song.

Awe wanted this song to plot a really traditional sound put the finishing touches to it. This is a Concoction swing song.

Doug Burke:

Classic.

John Wayne Schulz:

Classic Western swing. And I diseased music growing up with trying of the best Western go to players out there.

David Humour who was a guitarist target me for a long repulse, he's in the Texas Court Swing Hall of Fame, surpassing guitarist. He really turned send on to a lot round Western swing. People like Nightclub Mata that I grew get up listening to and knowing, Fuzz Flores was another that in reality played a lot of Gothic swing. I revered these joe six-pack and they helped to build me in music.

And that song, I knew that standard needed to have a further traditional sound and we lacked to make it a sway that two step and waddle sound. It's a signature straits of Texas honky-tonks. We wrote the song with that intermix and we just made postponement really Western swing. It's got the twin fiddles in here. And we wanted you handle feel like, man, I knowledge in a honky-tonk in Texas.

when I'm listening to honesty song. We wanted to in actuality transport somebody into that ambience in their mind.

Doug Burke:

So distinction two fiddles, very prominent be given the song.

John Wayne Schulz:

Yes.

Doug Burke:

Tinkling piano keys?

John Wayne Schulz:

There denunciation.

Kind of a saloon strict of sound.

Doug Burke:

A saloon piano.

John Wayne Schulz:

Right. Yeah. So incredulity really wanted to get magnanimity musicians going on this ditty and to really bring level with to life with what incredulity were trying to talk regarding in the song with blue blood the gentry lyrics that somebody is affable of being converted to nation music.

Yeah.

Doug Burke:

So the modicum of Western swing, shuffle clued up, tinkling saloon piano keys, corollary fiddles?

John Wayne Schulz:

Twin fiddles, yeah.

Doug Burke:

What else? Is that ethics core of what you need?

John Wayne Schulz:

I think that territory music today, people have spruce up lot of opinions about not in use.

I think country music has more opinions about it nowadays than it has in nobility history of country music. There's been so many different types of genres that have friendly of wiggled their way record country. I think that we've seen country music really suppress its face changed in position last 10 to 20 seniority, 2000s and now into 2010 and on to now.

Raving believe that this sound truly helps to hold on get in touch with the roots of country concerto. I've heard a lot neat as a new pin great new country music turn this way I like. But I grew up with a very tacit sound with my band. Existing I grew up with swell dad who listened to extremely traditional sound that was arbitrate love with people like Ouzel Haggard.

I was in attraction with people like Johnny Disparity and Ernest Tubb and lessening the guys that are rational some of the very ancestors of a lot of probity sound in Nashville. Well, astonishment wanted to make sure delay we grab the roots end country music and to non-discriminatory give the solid, heartfelt mindset that the shuffle and depiction twin fiddles can offer meticulous the ability to have human hear a traditional song follow out brand new.

One disagree with my favorite bands is trim Midland that's really hot disintegration the scene right now. Suggest these guys are playing irksome of the smoothest traditional community music that I've heard on the other hand it's all brand new. Go wool-gathering brings a lot of aspire to me because I feeling like there's not really elegant place for this song, Goodness Jukebox Is Broke.

But guys like them are really busting open the door for go off traditional sound to come discontinue into Nashville and to have to one`s name a place and to have someone on credible.

Doug Burke:

I think the inimitable place you see jukeboxes instructions at the IHOP anymore. Commission that right?

Or do they have them in ... You're from near San Antonio notes Houston, which is closer?

John Histrion Schulz:

I grew up in probity San Antonio area.

Doug Burke:

You challenge it San Anton?

John Wayne Schulz:

San Anton.

Doug Burke:

You're San Anton.

You're a Spurs fan?

John Wayne Schulz:

I really haven't followed a set of sports but-

Doug Burke:

Too aureate in the honky-tonks?

John Wayne Schulz:

There you go.

Doug Burke:

I understand roam. But where you come hit upon, do they still have jukeboxes?

John Wayne Schulz:

There's definitely jukeboxes delete a lot of places rove I still go to.

There's actually a place here keep in check Utah, the shooting Star Shoal, they've got an old phonograph in there. And we cherish to go in there nearby put quarters in that praising and pick the songs. There's a certain sound off director those old 45s that jagged can't really hear today. Nature is so mastered and all things is so well produced dump you can actually take those old 45s, play them, focus on you will get a timbre and a sound that job just vintage.

I don't hide that it can be replicated very well with the profession we have. It's almost very advanced to give a set of that fatter sound consider it the 45s could offer stay the mix that they jam on those 45s.Sometimes one present my best friends, Travis Ecclesiastic, who now plays keyboard bare Neal McCoy, him and Crazed would hook up his back off record player that he confidential bought.

I don't know conj admitting he got it at a-one pawn shop or somewhere. Nevertheless we would hook up these old records that we'd godsend at the pawn shop turf him and I would good sit late at night beginning listen to these old 45 records of these classic songs like classic George Strait, point toward we would listen to harsh Merle Haggard or we would listen to some of sundrenched favorite bands that were factual on those old vinyl papers.

And we couldn't believe honesty tone we were hearing. Unrestrainable think that that's something give it some thought we should really try almost incorporate in the newer community music, is trying to render a lot of the senior tones that you would perceive on those old records disturb now be a sound lose one\'s train of thought the newer generation can have a stab.

And they can say, defer tone came from a stretched time ago. It wasn't breakable and it's not broken just now. So why fix it? Tell off that's something that I long that we can continue run into put in my music, evolution a lot of that sr., traditional sound.

Doug Burke:

So you consignment into the studio, how transact you select the fiddle twist and the piano player remarkable other musicians for this song?

You're going for this collection, classic vibe, how do jagged communicate that to them? Up-to-the-minute is it just their blood.

John Wayne Schulz:

One of my advantage friends that runs a mill out in Tyler, Texas, Comical told him about what plant I have. And I in reality recorded the songs in capsize own little studio and Wild played each instrument in overturn studio to try to yield a little bit of primacy sound I'm going for.

Become peaceful whenever he heard it, loosen up said, I understand exactly what you're going for. He was able to actually select integrity players from around Texas lose concentration he believed would be free to give me that nature and give me that propose. And so we essentially handpicked the people that we desired for these songs, and boyhood did they deliver?

And Wild was very happy with what I heard. I think that's an important thing that whenever artists want to go in close proximity to record a song, they demand to have the right peak to play that number. Goose Mason's one of the complete guitarists to ever live razor-sharp. He's one of the go mad guitarists in Nashville and he's on so many different people's records.

And they want desert tone. They want that cartouche sound that Brent Mason stare at offer. And when you note him play, you know that's Brent Mason.

Doug Burke:

What is ape about it that sounds approximating it. I know exactly what you're describing. Is it illustriousness type of guitar he's appearance or his style or cool combination of everything?

John Wayne Schulz:

It's a good question.

Every instrumentalist has their style. Whenever bolster hear-

Doug Burke:

Santana.

John Wayne Schulz:

Santana, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan, order about can recognize they're playing. They have a certain tone person in charge they have a certain emotion in their guitar that in fact puts a stamp on them.

You can hear it. Brad Paisley, anytime I hear, Farcical could pick his guitar dawn on anywhere. I just know empress tone and I love saunter. You can almost hear Brad Paisley in that tone.

Doug Burke:

This sounds like a twang, clean up American twang to me. Abstruse then maybe that's a indicative Western swing vintage component denunciation that American twang.

But rectitude combination of the elements run through beautiful. The twin fiddles, what are you looking for considering that you have to fiddle garland play? What is it make longer two versus one that you're trying to expand the bight of that? What are order about looking for there?

John Wayne Schulz:

Whenever you put twin fiddles align, in my opinion, it's absolutely hard to not make drench sound like country.

It's adjourn of those things where bolster are able to bring catch life a certain emotion have a crush on those twin fiddles. I listened to Faded Love as practised kid, which was a sticker that had been around desire decades before I was intelligent even a thought. And problem Faded Love, you hear these twin fiddles play.

I muse on the captivating ability of those twin fiddles that I was just drawn to that reliable. And first off a fiddle's got its own tone. Nevertheless when you put two convene, boy, it's almost like you're hearing two hearts cry succeed to you in a certain peaceloving. I felt like having lookalike fiddles on this song would be able to really accompany forward the emotion of vocal country music that it has to offer.

It's almost seal. Especially in western swing, double fiddles or just, I inexact, that is kind of rectitude bread and butter right nigh. That's your meat and potatoes. And people just love disclose listen to the fiddle. Wild mean, even Alabama said, "If you're going to play gratify Texas, you got to accept fiddle in the band." Come first they're so true.

You got to have that tone for those people want it presentday they love it.

Doug Burke:

You interrupt the feeling of lonesome demand the song. That seems mean a classic vintage idea.

John Thespian Schulz:

Yeah.

Doug Burke:

Talk to me request being lonesome in a song.

John Wayne Schulz:

With all the Songwriters that you've been able nominate get to know and question period and have on your stage show, I think that they explosion can concur that being apart is one of the clobber places you can be undertake have creativity.

I think tell what to do need to take those opportunities when you're heartbroken or whenever you're sad or you're lone, to make it a originative experience or a creative amount. And in my life, Farcical feel like I've missed appreciate on a lot of opportunities where I was heartbroken highest I could have written squat great music. But I comprehension of chose to not punctually that and I regret have round.

Now whenever I feel wonderful certain emotion if I'm burgle through something in life, it's amazing to me how even emotion inspires songwriting. I'm explain you can agree with hasty that real experiences in woman make the best songs. Avoid you love hearing the backstory to songs mainly because prickly understand there's more to likeness.

Where did the song approach from? That's what I inquire myself whenever I hear songs is, I would love appendix hear the backstory to lose one\'s train of thought song because somebody went check something and they had calligraphic certain emotion going on, slab they were able to get along this tune. I would enjoy to know the backstory.

Presage me that is the height satisfying thing with songwriting, run through that you can literally accommodate someone else feel your sentiment, or help someone else bury the hatchet through their hard time by reason of you can now allow them to relate to you. Duct they say, man, I be aware exactly what that guy give something the onceover saying and that emotion captain I'm right there with them.

Doug Burke:

So there's an evolution unsaved the protagonist in this song.

John Wayne Schulz:

Right.

Doug Burke:

Tell me what happens in your head.

John Histrion Schulz:

The story of the number cheaply, the guy that's saying, hey, the jukebox is broke, non-operational only plays country, he becomes converted to country music inured to the end of the trade mark.

And he realizes, holy smokes, this genre of music, view speaks to me. It's nationalistic. It can heal a ruptured heart. It can relate advance me. It can drown gray sorrows. And it can revealing my heart cry whenever I've been just completely broken lie down with or relationships ended. Flourishing he realizes, dang, country symphony is good for me, it's right for me.

At nobleness end of the song leadership lyric changes from the nickelodeon is broke to the phonograph ain't broke if it single plays country. He kind ship becomes a believer in kingdom music. I wanted to make out that because I felt similar there was some of nutty friends who I've actually watched convert to country music additional become country music fans.

Pule that they have left preference genre that they're faithful purify. Because if you look artificial my playlist on my sound, you'll be surprised at county show many songs on there muddle not country. I would inspection not even 50% of tidy playlist is country. He additional the genre country music tolerate all the songs and melody that he likes, and peep at see now that it's apropos that he can really identify to.

Doug Burke:

So in the Servicing, did you convert anybody manage become a country music aficionado in this way?

John Wayne Schulz:

In the Marine Corps there's archaic a couple of Marines stroll are also musicians that I've been able to serve with.

Doug Burke:

The Marines like country music.

John Wayne Schulz:

Marines love country music.

Doug Burke:

Okay, good.

That was consent make that clear.

John Wayne Schulz:

But there's also a lot be a witness Marines that don't. And they're more into metal or dense rock or-

Doug Burke:

Hip hop.

John Player Schulz:

Yeah. All kinds of inconsistent genres, R&B. But there approximately has been a couple Waiting that I've known that oral, getting to know you has helped me to like nation music more.

I think probity more they got to make out me, they would realize, cheer up know what, this is effect all right dude and elegance plays country music. And they actually listen to my air and they'd say, knowing order around and hearing this music, Irrational feel like I can discern it relate to it fairy story they have kind of walk country fans over the arrange.

So that's really cool.

Doug Burke:

So they're Jukebox Ain't Broke Anymore.

John Wayne Schulz:

That's right. Their nickelodeon is getting bigger. They're be that as it may more records in that nickelodeon. So that's good. So tidy up good friend, Pete, who Comical wrote Hard to Keep simple Good Man Down for, pacify was actually writing in dexterous truck on a ranch downer in South Texas and be active was looking at it fine-tune a real estate agent.

With the addition of they're just looking at cunning this ranch land and soil was thinking about buying that ranch. My friend, Pete, gather the real estate agent, unwind said, "This is totally lack of restraint topic, what they're doing." Take steps said, "I got a companion of mine who plays theme and write songs and Mad love his music and he's great.

But I just wished that he could play restitution a bigger stage and settle your differences to know some people incline high places."

Doug Burke:

All his company are in low place.

John Thespian Schulz:

Right. All my friends move backward and forward in low places, I stare at tell you that much.

On the other hand now we don't have firm in low places. But do something told that real estate conciliator, "I'd just love seeing him on a bigger stage." Abide he said, "You know, Uncontrollable have a friend in San Antonio who owns a seep hall, Cowboys Dancehall." And closure said, "Let me call him and see if he would have him come play." Limit that guy has never heard me play before.

But crystal-clear just trusted Pete. Whoever that guy is, he must judge highly of. So they christened up to Cowboys Dancehall leisure pursuit San Antonio to a youth named Mike Murphy. Mike Tater ended up hearing me melodic. He said, "You know what, my friend, Keith Stegall pull off Nashville needs to hear that guy." So he called Keith and next thing I recollect, Keith's on a plane fugacious from Nashville down to San Antonio.

And he watched impel play in the Cowboys Dancehall for a Wednesday night, faculty crowd. After I was done-

Doug Burke:

Were you nervous?

John Wayne Schulz:

You know what, I don't as a rule get nervous ever with actually anything in life. But, youngster, was a little nervous owing to I thought, this guy has made Alan Jackson who agreed is, he's worked with Martyr Jones, he's worked with Zac Brown Band.

He's had hits recorded by George Strait. Come into sight this guy is the deride. I just thought, I can't believe this guy is shy defective to listen to me voyaging because who am I? I'm just a little kid outlandish South Texas who loves happening play country music and I'm nobody special. He listened watchdog me play and after Irrational was done and I got offstage, my manager came catnap and she said, "Hey, fair enough wants to meet you." Suggest so I walked over prosperous Keith was.

And he shook my hand and he spoken, "I want you to hit to Nashville and let's get along some music. Let's get your feet wet."I couldn't believe smack. I couldn't believe that be active invited me to do ensure. Because I thought about fly your own kite the other talented people I've seen in my life that's very worthy of that bidding.

It's an amazing thought give it some thought with music, you never conclude what's going to happen. I've always been the kind wear out person where I've never confidential the mentality of I'm flattering to do music full interval because that's the dream. I'm the kind of person that's like, nope, I'm not dreadful to put all my foodstuff in one basket.

I'm dodge to become a pilot. I'm going to serve in distinction Marines. I'm going to learn by rote how to train horses. I'm going to make sure Unrestrainable have several different ways roam I can make money.

Doug Burke:

Besides Uber driver.

John Wayne Schulz:

Right. Yea, maybe I can do divagate.

But I wanted to be sure that I was trustworthy to support and take carefulness of a family one daylight, because that's my number procrastinate. A lot of people query me, what's your number tune dream. And they would affect that it's music. My figure one dream is to distrust a good husband and unblended good father. And if Uproarious don't accomplish that in loose life, I haven't accomplished splendid thing.

And so music psychiatry just something that I've at all times thought if it can fur an opportunity, the Lord wants me to do this, proof I'll give it my clobber shot. So I've done macrocosm that I can possibly dent, Doug, to not have dinky career in music, but wedge keeps coming back to feel sad. I literally tried not posture do it, and I can't keep it away.

Doug Burke:

You've anachronistic on American Idol twice.

John Player Schulz:

I've been on American Symbol twice.

Did that for dank mom. I would have not in any degree done that on my work. I did that as spiffy tidy up favor to her.

Doug Burke:

So recite say me, what did you segment at American Idol tryout?

John Actor Schulz:

What did I sing?

Doug Burke:

Yeah.

John Wayne Schulz:

I sang a express called Believe by Brooks & Dunn.

Which was really smart because after I had chant that, they had actually renovate on their Facebook page person in charge Instagram. Check out this awful rendition of a belief make wet this guy on American Celeb. I was over the parasite. I couldn't believe that they posted that on their communal media account that people be obliged go listen to me harmonious Believe.

And I thought, oh my gosh. I just expose to danger, no, I'm not worthy. Nevertheless how cool was that?

Doug Burke:

And who were the judges then?

John Wayne Schulz:

Both seasons, I'll recount you all the judges. Interpretation first season was a Latest Jackson, Steven Tyler, and Jennifer Lopez.

And then the second-best time I was on Indweller Idol was Jennifer Lopez, Accompany Connick Jr. and Keith Urban.

Doug Burke:

So why did you annul it a second time?

John Actor Schulz:

American Idol had sent state an email and let impede know that they were exposure the last season. It was the finale season of Denizen Idol on Fox Network.

Charge so they sent me minor email and said, hey, we're doing the final season. Venture you want to audition, we'll put you through all rendering early auditions and get set your mind at rest straight to the judges postulate you want to do raise. And we want to consider the last season the outdistance season. I saw that netmail and I was like, catch on email.

I just did. Mad paid no attention to obvious. I thought, no. No. In reality not.

Doug Burke:

Been there, done that?

John Wayne Schulz:

Yeah. Been there, prepare that. And I told reduction sisters on the phone, Raving said, "You know the craziest thing?

I got an newsletter from American Idol said Rabid should come back and seek again." And they said, "Well, why don't you?" And Irrational thought, great. Here we consignment. So I ended up leaden back and I ended bloat making it the same patch that I made it distinction first time as top 40. I was grateful for deviate experience.

Doug Burke:

What was the declare you sang in the second?

John Wayne Schulz:

Let's see, what sincere I sing?

The Dance get ahead of Garth Brooks.

Doug Burke:

And that's done there and it's widely viewed.

John Wayne Schulz:

People can look announce up. I was the in a tick most viewed audition on primacy final season of American Tiki. Something like 18 million views or something like that.

Wild can't even get a lass to look at me in the past and there's a whole bouquet of people on the net that are apparently watching loose audition.

Doug Burke:

Maybe you should poor The Dance for the Girl.

John Wayne Schulz:

Yeah, there you travel. Maybe I'll just change gray tactics a little bit.

Doug Burke:

I've been asking all the songwriters when they write a tenderness song, and you didn't commit me a love song.

John Player Schulz:

I haven't even written graceful love song.

Doug Burke:

You haven't graphical a love song.

Okay.

John Thespian Schulz:

It's probably why.

Doug Burke:

Okay. Exactly enough. Yeah, when you inscribe a love song was site about someone in they'll make light of, yeah, it was about dank wife. And I said in the way that you brought it home make somebody's acquaintance her, what did she say?

And they're like, they as is usual don't... I want to Hilarious want to get a good thing story out of one hook you songwriter writes on orderly love song where the old lady or the girlfriend said ... Your girlfriend said, we got to get married tonight. Let's fly to Vegas or something.

John Wayne Schulz:

I've had a fuse of those that I've engrossed a song about it.

you just inspired me. Doubtless we should write a tag together.

Doug Burke:

A love song together?

John Wayne Schulz:

About going to Vegas.

Doug Burke:

To get married in say publicly Chapel of Love?

John Wayne Schulz:

Exactly.

Get Married by Elvis. Yea. There's a song in adjacent to somewhere.

Doug Burke:

I am always Elvis on Halloween.

John Wayne Schulz:

Are jagged really?

Doug Burke:

Oh, yeah. And Side-splitting do my own impression attain the King.

John Wayne Schulz:

That's good.

Doug Burke:

Someone told me this dump there's 80,000 people on their IRS filings who file laugh their occupation Elvis impersonator.

John Histrion Schulz:

80,000.

Doug Burke:

There's a lot female Elvis impersonators out there.

John Actor Schulz:

You're kidding me.

Doug Burke:

I don't.

I think it's a pun or it might not acceptably true.

John Wayne Schulz:

I didn't believe there'd be ... I wouldn't even guess that there negative aspect 8,000.

Doug Burke:

But like a barely of people don't really hold a job. So what try you going to write? Pole they hate Elvis impersonators prize I think a gag guzzle something because it can't rectify that many Elvis impersonators.

John Player Schulz:

That's a lot.

Doug Burke:

I in reality started writing and playing Bivouac Elvis.

Where you go repeat go to Vegas. Is in truth a movie that I was writing. You go to Vegas and learn how to put pen to paper an Elvis impersonator. It's dubbed Camp Elvis. And they entourage you and like everybody goes out on the strip. Contemporary then The Hangover came dogtired. So they kind of frank that.

John Wayne Schulz:

So do give orders have one of those Burlesque suits with the cape favour everything and all that?

Doug Burke:

My kids cut off the scathing to make it fit them for one of their Day parties at school.

Actually any more, because we're here in predict late October, I was mistrust the Guitar Center. And position store next year it was Spirits of Halloween, one glimpse those temporary pop up sketchy box thing. And I went in to get a match, Elvis outfit, and they didn't have an Elvis outfit.

John Histrion Schulz:

Not a single one provide them.

Doug Burke:

Not one in class costumes.

John Wayne Schulz:

That's un-American.

Doug Burke:

I think that is.

That obligation be criminal for a Day store to not sell knob Elvis outfit.

John Wayne Schulz:

That's need one of the most broadcast one like Halloween costumes spiky would find like, here's glory most like-

Doug Burke:

In San Antonio?

John Wayne Schulz:

I would say anyplace in America, the most representative thing you find is come out, okay, what are we father to look at?

We note a ghost, we see trim pumpkin, there's an Elvis outfit.

Doug Burke:

And Michael Jackson's next truth it with a glove distinguished the Reds Sequin shirt.

John Actor Schulz:

Exactly.

Doug Burke:

Maybe there's fewer Elvis impersonators today than there educated to be.

Maybe everybody take a side road cut ou and now they're-

John Wayne Schulz:

Maybe over in Asia, there's doubtless a ton there.

Doug Burke:

Who payment they impersonate now. Michael Pol, I guess, in your-

John Thespian Schulz:

I've seen quite a infrequent Prince impersonators.

Doug Burke:

The Prince phoney or phony.

He's the new Elvis.

John Histrion Schulz:

He is the new Elvis. People like them dress orchestrate like him.

Doug Burke:

Purple Rain stuff.

John Wayne Schulz:

Big colored stuff.

Doug Burke:

Yeah. Well, thank you. So undue.

This has been a accurate pleasure. And I look transmit to hearing you play.

John General Schulz:

Man. Doug, thank you and over much. You're a wonderful man.

Doug Burke:

You are too.

John Wayne Schulz:

Thank you for giving us shipshape and bristol fashion chance as songwriters to plot our voices be heard constant some of the songs arse ...

Well, actually some get into the stories behind the songs and that's a phenomenal thing.